cho-uc said @retoor EUR 150 in NL? That's cheap! Here in Germany, I pay EUR 800 with no guarantee of getting service 🥲,@retoor Yup, half is paid by employer and the other is taken from our salary. I wouldn't mind if we get excellent healthcare services, but dear God we have to wait 3 months to see a specialist, and the doctor only have 7 minutes per patient (regulated by insurance),@retoor The insurance cost is a percentage of our salary (14% where 7% is taken from our paycheck) with a maximum of EUR 470(I am already in the maximum) Haha Germany is only cheap if you have below average income, but for high paid professionals, we're getting ripped off 🥲 Especially someone with no kids like me, they just increased one of the social insurances this year, my January take home pay is less than last year. 😢,Early retirement. Then spend the day gardening and taking care of cats. Only take part time and full remote work,My current project. Estimates: - Stage 1 : 3 days - Stage 2 : 2-3 weeks Reality: Stage 1 : 2 weeks Stage 2 : 3 days I am not even embarrassed at this point, I am just happy we managed to pass Stage 1 development```